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    1964D Lincoln cent

    Hello everyone I'm new here and ready to learn and inquire,I hope the people here are a little smarter than some of the other sites I've been too,so let me get started with my first inquiry it is a 1964D Lincoln cent that seems to be doubled died and has the wavyiest steps I've ever seen I'm looking for good honest opinion with open minds who can fathom the possibilities of maybe or possible what happend and has anyone ever seen anything like this thanks and helloName:  IMG_20171121_204439.jpg
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tooboocoo View Post
    Hello everyone I'm new here and ready to learn and inquire,I hope the people here are a little smarter than some of the other sites I've been too,so let me get started with my first inquiry it is a 1964D Lincoln cent that seems to be doubled died and has the wavyiest steps I've ever seen I'm looking for good honest opinion with open minds who can fathom the possibilities of maybe or possible what happend and has anyone ever seen anything like this thanks and helloName:  IMG_20171121_204439.jpg
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    This forum is very quiet, I only check in like once a month. Your coin has post mint damage, likely from either fire or acid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lehigh96 View Post
    This forum is very quiet, I only check in like once a month. Your coin has post mint damage, likely from either fire or acid.
    if that is true which I question why would the ripples be of opposite directions if it were an acid deal and I have heated pennies trying to duplicate this phenomena and no way if it's a composite coin you can melt it no problem but a copper penny is different,dosent melt so easy ,have you ever tried anything you are suggesting,what kind of acid are you suggesting would not eat the penny a white wheel destroys a coin and how would an acid bath create the pillars on the reverse to look like a deck of cards which had been fanned out I don't see acid or heat being able to reproduce this affect the coin eeigs in at 3.1 grams no copper missing which is what I would expect from acid creating this image and at what temperature will copper start to deform leaving this ripple affect and then make the ripples on both sides go opposite directions to me if a coin is going to get to the melting point the two sides would have a tendencies to run the same direction,common sense,why dosent anyone think out of the book this acid theory and heat theory are not the answer to this coin thank you for your input but there must be a more realißtic reason and if anybody has something like this or similar I would love to see it I'm almost betting that no one has seen one and that's why nobody will post a picture,what good dose making one error coin do for a counterfeiter what would somebody gain out of making only one and if there are more I want to see an example

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    When dealing with error coins, the first determination you need to make is if the effect is caused during the minting process or if it was done post mint and is post mint damage. So while I can't give a definitive explanation for what somebody did to this coin, I can tell you that this was not caused during the minting process and your coin is not a valuable error coin. Furthermore, heat could absolutely cause this effect. But hey, I only have a degree in metallurgy, what do I know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lehigh96 View Post
    When dealing with error coins, the first determination you need to make is if the effect is caused during the minting process or if it was done post mint and is post mint damage. So while I can't give a definitive explanation for what somebody did to this coin, I can tell you that this was not caused during the minting process and your coin is not a valuable error coin. Furthermore, heat could absolutely cause this effect. But hey, I only have a degree in metallurgy, what do I know.
    Ty Mr.metallurgist but none of my questions have really been answered,have you tried to heat a penny to the point where it is going to alter the reverse images,for example,the Lincoln memorial appears to be continued to the top of the coin and the words one cent,especially the E&N in cent,fire or heat made everything spread apart and create ripples different directions obverse and reverse,seems both sides of a coin being heated at the same rate would have to have similar reactions not opposing and at what temperature would you have to heat the copper to before it started to ripple and why wouldn't the date and liberty on the obverse be isolated and not be damaged I'm just trying to picture how this penny could have been altered the way it is and have heat be the culprit,not to say heat won't melt copper but I don't see any plumbers having any problem with wavy copper when they heat it up and if I'm not mistaken when copper starts to melt it's hard to stop it before the coin would turn to a puddle of copper and again thanks and I apologize for maybe seeming like a know all but I've seen lots of coins and never anything like this and I might not be a metallurgist but I'm nod a fool either,I just want to see an example of what everyone keeps trying to tell me,is there any way to have the copper analyzed to detect residual acid or tell if the coin has been heated,like the coin toning which is the results I got when I tried to heat some,they definitely changed their appearance but nothing rippled except color again ty and I'm gonna keep searching for a reason that actually makes sense

 

 

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